Hi Ariana! I'm not sure how long it has been like this, but right now what I'm seeing on the Books Hub's main page (http://bookshub.wikia.com/wiki/Books_Hub), sections of it is displaying what looks like stuff belonging to another hub (movies?), not sure if this is supposed to happen? Feel like I ought to report this somewhere.
Also, are we allow to edit on this page http://bookshub.wikia.com/wiki/Calendar? It is open to regular user edits, but seeing there's the "official" on the banner, I figure I should ask before editing. I just sort of got into the Caster Chronicles and of which Dangerous Deception is supposed to be coming out later this month, was wondering if it's alright to put it up there, hopefully re-acttracting old fans and perhaps new ones... Their wiki is kind of dying and it's such a shame.
Hey Ariana! Thanks for the explanation... I guess it just shows I haven't been with Wikia that long to know about this kind of stuff lol. Next time when it happen I won't freak out!
I want to talk to you about something else though, this is again about the Book Wikis footer; I was wondering if you can consider simply making a section for "Authors" (perhaps on the top being the first section)? For a person like me who basically doesn't read much, I knew Harry Potter, Percy Jackson, and Alex Rider are in fact just characters' names instead of actual people, but for authors whom I've never heard of (basically most of them except for Stephen King), it became a bit hard to tell if it's a character of a series as the name of the series, or an author and it's a wiki about multiple works of an author.
But I'll have to admit again, I really don't read much, so I really don't know much about any of the authors I've just listed; if their works are all set in the same shared universe (I did already exclude three Wikis that are names of authors yet all the works of whom are set in the same world), I guess there's no need to move them to the author section, but I'm getting the impression that those are indeed covering multiple standalone books series by the same authors. Then you can add your Charlaine Harris wik along! (I realized it is added on the YA footer, but not the main one where a lot of other authors are) =D I also want to nominate the Cornelia Funke Wiki to be listed as well! (I'm working my way around it) Also, originally the Inkheart Wiki somehow didn't have the "BOOKS" logo at the bottom, I reported it and it was fixed and I was told just to ask about it... So, is it okay for you (since you are also a staff), to add the "BOOKS" logo to the Cornelia Funke Wiki? That's really what it is, a wiki about her books. I've talked to the founder and admin of that wiki and she said she's not really around to manage the wiki and it's alright to just make choices... I think this is a reasonable one! =]
If for some reason the authors can't have their own separate section, that's fine, too; it's just a suggestion! Other nominees: I haven't read them, but I came across those three other wikis about book series: City of Ember, Maximum Ride, and Lords of the Underworld; perhaps they can be added to the footer as well! xoxo
Thank you for the change for the Cornelia Funke wiki! Looking forward to seeing the orange logo to pop up!
Oh... ahaha... Gail Carriger and Lemony Snicket are actually two of the ones I've excluded... the first one it seems like the series was only set decades or centuries apart or something yet still in the same world.. then again I haven't read them so I don't know if the statement is accurate. Same goes for Snicket... Base on "The new series, designed to be a set of prequels to A Series of Unfortunate Events"...
And for some bizarre reason, the footer isn't updating on Inkheart Wiki... yet it is on The Caster Chronicles Wiki lol Still not seeing Cornelia Funke and Charlaine Harris on this specific template though...
But yeah! Thank you for creating the section! That itself helps a lot! (btw, Stephen King and Tamora Pierce are missing a dot in between.)
Oh whoops I left off Cornelia and Charlaine! OK those are added in. As for Gail Carriger-- I think it's ok since the wiki is named after the author. Might be clearer for people looking for her wiki. Same for Lemony Snicket. (I see your point though :D)
Weird- I see the books logo at the bottom of Inkheart! Maybe refresh your cache??
And the dot is now updated! Wahoo... I'm a scatterbrain. Thank you for catching that.
Oh no I mean that the footer isn't showing what you've updated (the latest version), for some reason I'm still seeing Children's Books under Action-Adventure instead of the new Author section on the Inkheart Wiki, but it's showing on another wiki. I guess I'll just have to wait for it xP. (and yes the book logo has been there ever since I made the request a few weeks ago; was talking about template and its content)
and um, okay this is totally again just a personal suggestion and I hope I don't annoy you, but can you consider replacing the codes to the Book Wikis footer template to something like the one below?
I'll explain first. The only things I've changed are to align ALL the text center (so I also removed the extra codes for the headings to make them center), margins on all sides and extra padding on the right. I used to major in graphic design, and one of the typography concepts stuck in my brain is "orphan", it basically means a very short line or even just a single word at end aka bottom of a paragraph, and it's something to avoid. Right now, if placing the footer on the left column of the main page, "Sherlock Holmes" and "Zodiac" will appear to look like orphans; if placing it on the main page on the bottom so it can fully stretch out, a lot of lines will look like that because the line length is much longer... Making them all centered will at least make it less off-balanced. As for the margin and padding, it's actually because I'm not exactly sure how to fix it; the problem I have is that on the left of all the text, there's a pretty gracious gap between the text and the image; however, there's barely any gap on the right with text and the outline of the box; some of the words are practically kissing the line and causing tangents, it again is just something really not pleasing to the eyes.
I didn't add any extra link or fix any order of the links, just the overall presentation; I hope you can at least copy and paste it to preview how it looks like... and if it doesn't work for you, I guess that's fine, too. But I figure I should let you know... That's like the downside of learning typography... one can never un-see stuff after learning the rules.
<div align="center" style="text-align:center; width:99%; border:1px solid #396b76">
<div style="height:187px; overflow:auto; margin:5px 5px 5px 5px; padding-left:5px; padding-right:10px">
<!-- Action/Adventure -->
[[w:c:the13treasurescursessecretsbook|13 Treasures]] •
[[w:c:gabrielallon|Gabriel Allon]] •
[[w:c:iamnumberfour|I Am Number Four]] •
[[w:c:jamesbond|James Bond]] •
[[w:c:magnuschase|Magnus Chase & the Gods of Asgard]] •
[[w:c:camphalfblood|Percy Jackson]] •
[[w:c:kanechronicles|The Kane Chronicles]]
<!-- BY AUTHOR -->
[[w:c:corneliafunke|Cornelia Funke]] •
[[w:c:charlaineharris|Charlaine Harris]] •
[[w:c:dianawynnejones|Diana Wynne Jones]] •
[[w:c:seuss|Dr. Seuss]] •
[[w:c:ericflint|Eric Flint]] •
[[w:c:gailcarriger|Gail Carriger Books]] •
[[w:c:turtledove|Harry Turtledove]] •
[[w:c:janeausten|Jane Austen]] •
[[w:c:ljanesmith|L. J. Smith]] •
[[w:c:snicket|Lemony Snicket]] •
[[w:c:megcabot|Meg Cabot]] •
[[w:c:pkd|Phillip K. Dick]] •
[[w:c:stephenking|Stephen King]] •
[[w:c:tamorapierce|Tamora Pierce]] •
[[w:c:booksofhistorychronicles|Ted Dekker]] •
<!-- CHILDREN'S BOOKS -->
<div style="font-size:18px">Children's Books</div>
[[w:c:amelia|Amelia's Notebooks]] •
[[w:c:anneofgreengables|Anne of Green Gables]] •
[[w:c:boxcarchildren|Boxcar Children]] •
[[w:c:childrensbooks|Children's Books]] •
[[w:c:childrenofthelamp|Children of the Lamp]] •
[[w:c:daphne|Daphne's Diary]] •
[[w:c:dearamerica|Dear America]] •
[[w:c:guardiansofgahoole|Guardians of Ga'Hoole]] •
[[w:c:hardyboys|Hardy Boys]] •
[[w:c:harrypotter|Harry Potter]] •
[[w:c:littlehouse|Little House on the Prairie]] •
[[w:c:thepeculiarchildren|Miss Peregrine's Home for Peculiar Children]] •
[[w:c:septimusheap|Septimus Heap]] •
[[w:c:magictreehouse|The Magic Tree House]] •
[[w:c:underlandchronicles|The Underland Chronicles]] •
[[w:c:warriors|Warriors Cats]] •
[[w:c:wingsoffire|Wings of Fire]]
<!-- FANTASY -->
[[w:c:666parkavenue|666 Park Avenue]] •
[[w:c:abrahamlincolnvampirehunter|Abraham Lincoln: Vampire Hunter]] •
[[w:c:artemisfowl|Artemis Fowl]] •
[[w:c:ashtownburials|Ashtown Burials]] •
[[w:c:bartimaeus|Bartimaeus Trilogy]] •
[[w:c:bluebloodsuniverse|Blue Bloods]] •
[[w:c:brilliancesaga|Brilliance Saga]] •
[[w:c:cirquedufreak|Cirque Du Freak]] •
[[w:c:codexalera|Codex Alera]] •
[[w:c:darkhunter|Dark Hunters]] •
[[w:c:denofshadows|Den of Shadows]] •
[[w:c:eondragoneye|Eon: Dragoneye Reborn]] •
[[w:c:fae|Fae Trilogy]] •
[[w:c:heirchronicles|Heir Chronicles]] •
[[w:c:houseofnight|House of Night]] •
[[w:c:hdm|His Dark Materials]] •
[[w:c:iamlegend|I Am Legend]] •
[[w:c:iceandfire|Ice and Fire]] •
[[w:c:inkheart|Inkheart Trilogy]] •
[[w:c:ironfey|Iron Fey]] •
[[w:c:kingkiller|Kingkiller Chronicles]] •
[[w:c:lotr|Lord of the Rings]] •
[[w:c:nightworld|Night World]] •
[[w:c:sevenrealms|Seven Realms]] •
[[w:c:shadowfalls|Shadow Falls]] •
[[w:c:sistersgrimm|Sisters Grimm]] •
[[w:c:sookiestackhouse|Southern Vampire Mysteries]] •
[[w:c:thecasterchronicles|The Caster Chronicles]] •
[[w:c:darktower|The Dark Tower]] •
[[w:c:thehollows|The Hollows]] •
[[w:c:theirondruidchronicles|The Iron Druid Chronicles]] •
[[w:c:bloodofeden|The Immortal Rules]] •
[[w:c:theimmortalsseries|The Immortals Series]] •
[[w:c:themagicians|The Magicians]] •
[[w:c:theportaltrilogy|The Portal Trilogy]] •
[[w:c:eugenides|The Queen's Thief]] •
[[w:c:theravenboys|The Raven Boys]] •
[[w:c:secretcircle|The Secret Circle]] •
[[w:c:secretsnicholasflamel|The Secrets of the Immortal Nicholas Flamel]] •
[[w:c:societyondarun|The Society On Da Run/Tarnished: Broken Dragons]] •
[[w:c:thesoulkeepers|The Soulkeepers]] •
[[w:c:spiderwick|The Spiderwick Chronicles]] •
[[w:c:stormlightarchive|The Stormlight Archive]] •
[[w:c:theforbiddengame|The Forbidden Game]] •
[[w:c:theyoungelites|The Young Elites]] •
[[w:c:thethroneofglass|Throne of Glass]] •
[[w:c:trylletrilogy|Trylle Trilogy]] •
[[w:c:tigerscurse|Tiger's Curse]] •
[[w:c:urbanfantasy|Urban Fantasy]] •
[[w:c:vampireacademy|Vampire Academy]] •
[[w:c:vampirediaries|The Vampire Diaries]] •
[[w:c:violetedenchapters|Violet Eden Chapters]] •
[[w:c:wot|Wheel of Time]] •
<!-- MYSTERY -->
[[w:c:39clues|39 Clues]] •
[[w:c:gravesight|Grave Sight]] •
[[w:c:indeath|In Death]] •
[[w:c:romanmysteries|Roman Mysteries]] •
[[w:c:pretty-little-liars|Pretty Little Liars]] •
<!-- SCIENCE-FICTION -->
<div style="font-size:18px">Science Fiction</div>
[[w:c:ansible|Ender's Game]] •
[[w:c:hitchhikers|Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy]] •
[[w:c:longknife|Kris Longknife]] •
[[w:c:michaelvey|Michael Vey Series]] •
[[w:c:expanse|The Expanse]] •
[[w:c:thehostseries|The Host]] •
[[w:c:themortalitydoctrine|The Mortality Doctrine]] •
[[w:c:red-rising|Red Rising]] •
[[w:c:the-returned|The Returned]] •
<!-- YA -->
<div style="font-size:18px">Young Adult Fiction</div>
[[w:c:awalktoremember|A Walk to Remember]] •
[[w:c:alexrider|Alex Rider]] •
[[w:c:thearcanachronicles|Arcana Chronicles]] •
[[w:c:beautifuldisaster|Beautiful Disaster]] •
[[w:c:daughterofsmokeandbone|Daughter of Smoke and Bone]] •
[[w:c:delirium|Delirium Trilogy]] •
[[w:c:emilyofnewmoon|Emily of New Moon]] •
[[w:c:theforestofhandsandteeth|Forest of Hands and Teeth]] •
[[w:c:gallaghergirls|Gallagher Girls]] •
[[w:c:guardsoftheshadowlands|Guards of the Shadowlands]] •
[[w:c:hushhush|Hush, Hush]] •
[[w:c:littlewomen|Little Women]] •
[[w:c:maradyer|Mara Dyer]] •
[[w:c:monsterblood|Monster Blood Tattoo]] •
[[w:c:monument14|Monument 14]] •
[[w:c:rainoftheghosts|Rain of the Ghosts]] •
[[w:c:red-queen|Red Queen]] •
[[w:c:shipbreaker|Ship Breaker]] •
[[w:c:the5thwave|The 5th Wave]] •
[[w:c:thebookthief|The Book Thief]] •
[[w:c:theboneseason|The Bone Season]] •
[[w:c:thefaultinourstars|The Fault in Our Stars]] •
[[w:c:thehungergames|The Hunger Games]] •
[[w:c:thelonecity|The Lone City]] •
[[w:c:lunarchronicles|The Lunar Chronicles]] •
[[w:c:mazerunner|The Maze Runner]] •
[[w:c:papergods|Paper Gods]] •
[[w:c:themediator|The Mediator]] •
[[w:c:the-queen-of-the-tearling|The Queen of the Tearling]] •
[[w:c:thelyinggame|The Lying Game]] •
[[w:c:thescorpioraces|The Scorpio Races]] •
[[w:c:theselection|The Selection]] •
[[w:c:shadowhunters|The Shadowhunter Chronicles]] •
[[w:c:wewereliars|We Were Liars]] •
<!-- MISC -->
[[w:c:fiftyshadesofgrey|Fifty Shades of Grey]] •
[[w:c:the-kills|The Kills]] •
[[w:c:millenniumtrilogy|Millenium Trilogy]] •
[[w:c:sexandthecity|Sex and the City]] •
[[w:c:smstirling|S. M. Stirling]] •
[[w:c:patricia-finney|Sir Robert Carey Mysteries]] •
[[w:c:takashi-matsuoka|Takashi Matsuoka]] •
[[w:c:the-last-kingdom|The Last Kingdom]] •
[[w:c:wolvesofmercyfalls|Wolves of Mercy Falls]]
Love the suggestion! Thanks so much for fixing the code there...I think it looks great! It is updated here... That's so cool you majored in graphic design and typography! I learned all of my design stuff when I started working at Wikia...but I'm trying to learn a bit on my own so I can improve :)
Awww thank you for trying out and ending up using it! I was seriously afraid of being overbearing. I actually only majored in graphic design for a really, REALLY short period of time, but I feel I did get the principles, just not the advanced stuff. On the Net it's a bit different though... like coding is something I have to observe and ask around (sent in quite of few emails to wikia for it actually)... I still have no idea why the gap on the left side is that width, I didn't think it needs to be that wide, but because I have no idea how to decrease it, I made space the right wider to balance it out a bit.... I'm glad you find it okay!
Um, looking at it more closely, I noticed the section "Fantasy" and "Young Adult Fiction" are getting quite a bit long; I think perhaps you can consider creating another categorization, "Supernatural"? Although it may be a bit similar to Fantasy, I think there's still a slight difference... Like His Dark Materials, Ice and Fire, Inheritance, Inkheart Trilogy, Kingkiller Chronicles, and Lord of the Rings; those stood out to me as Fantasy; whereas Cirque Du Freak, Southern Vampire Mysteries, The Caster Chronicles, Vampire Academy, and The Vampire Diaries are more of Supernatural. The Shadowhunter Chronicles and Twilight from the YA section can be moved to this as well. Again, I don't really read much so I don't really recognize most of the titles, therefore I'm not sure whether the ratio of this genre would end up taking up way more than ideal, but it's an idea.
I was also under the impression that Alex Rider was a "agent" type thingy... Both Bourne and James Bond are under "Action-Adventure", perhaps it could be moved there?
Although the wiki also covers adaptation in other media, it had all the info on the original works, I think it should also be listed: Oz
Again, not quite sure if the proportion is worth mentioning, but if it is, maybe creating a "Dystopian/Post-apocalyptic" section could share the load of some longer sections.
A slightly more difficult suggestion... Do you think you can create another image for the YA footer to match up the Book footer? (not the other way around) I have to admit, initially I really think the square looks more appealing and professional, but in the end I think it's more about fonts and overall design choice. The reason I ask this is not just so they can look good when placing them one on top of the other, but because, right now, the book footer can actually be used as a sidebox, I'm not sure where I saw it first, but I also did it on the Cornelia Funke Wiki; and although the image is perhaps 1 or 2 pixels wider than the box, it generally looks pretty good imo; the YA footer, on the other hand, because of the image width, cannot be used as such. I thought it'd be nice if giving people more options about where to place the template.
I lifted the protect options for the template-- it seems like you have a lot of really good ideas and I trust your judgment! Do you want to go ahead and make the changes you listed above? Narnia should be on there! Same with Oz.
I'm into the idea of creating new sections to break it up a bit! It gets tricky because a lot of the books fit into multiple sections-- but you could possible use Goodreads as a guide?
As for the YA footer-- good idea, I updated the photo! I also created this template if users only want to post one template onto their wiki (see here). I tried to delete the break-- but it kept messing up the templates, so I kept it as is.
So what do you think about working on the Book Wiki footer- would you be up for it?
Ohhh wow, the new template with both of them is awesome! Thank you! The gap is indeed smaller!!!!!! Will place it on Inkheart Wiki later!
Awww thanks for having faith in me! I would like to help out editing the book wiki footer, but I think sorting out while checking with Goodreads takes time, if it's okay, I'll document them somewhere else and update when I go through a few sections? So you might not see any immediate changes on it, but yes I would like to work on it!! =D
Well I was hoping to have two big categories, authors and books. And for books there could be a whole range of genres and whatnot. And for authors, there could be type of authors (what type of genre they wrote about the most) and even what century they are from. I am not sure if there is an easy way to do this besides just creating the pages.
First of all, let me just mention what a fantastic job you have done to improving this Wiki. The main page looks absolutly incredible, and the forums are very well organized. In November, I was getting ready for my exams, and I was swamped. This is when my activity slowly started to decline. I should've left a message on your wall informing you that this was happening. Then afterwards, I was swamped with more work. Also, a couple months ago, I joined the theater group at my school, and that went until 7:00 every single night. I am extremely sorry about this, and I certainly should not have left Book Club in the dust.
Just last week, my schedule started opening up again, and I am wanting to jump back into this Wiki and see whats going on. I will contribute to the To Do List, and be as active as I can on the forums. Once again, thank you for everything you have done, it has been more than a pleasure working with you.
Hey Asnow, I had a few questions on opinon and advice and just an update on how the book club thing is going. I am doing a lot of planning and working on a lot of the little kinks of video broadcasting. Firstly I saw that the original thread was not in the Bible Book Club forum and was wondering if you could move that there for me. Secondly I was wondering if it were possible I could have forum moderator rights strictly for use of the Bible Book Club forum. A third is I would like to be able to have some page that is not in forum format to host all the information and was wondering if I should do that on a project page on biblicalapedia or should I do it on an article here. Related to that should I try to keep it on a forum here or on the books hub (there are benefits to having it on biblicalapedia but not as much promotion).
Lastly I was wondering if you had a reccomendation on how monthly I could suggest a story for each book without having a blog everytime (like I was wondering of when I relaunch if it could be promoted on the front page and then once a month have a link and a new picture for each book of the month). I also plan on (will have to check with them) to see if I can get a spotlight running for it when revamps. Also I may enlist the help of the ComDev to see if I can get a logo created for it.
Let me know
Superdadsuper, Biblicalapedia Administrator and Bureaucrat
Hey! The link you sent me-- looks like it's in the right place on the forum boards, but maybe I don't understand what you mean?
I gave you moderator rights for the Bible Book Club!
I think you should host the information on a project page on Biblicalapedia- but thank you for checking! You can always drop a link in the forums to direct to Biblicalapedia to help you get more promotion?
For the monthly suggest a story - you want in on the main page of Books Hub? or on Biblicalapedia?
I would reccomend asking Asnow89 in to making that an official wikia books hub social media page (problem is there isn't one for each hub yet). Also I reccomend renaming that to Wikia Books Hub. I unfortunately will have to pass on myself being an admin as otherwise you would see my personal account on Facebook.
Hey! Love the initiative-- but we aren't going to create branded Facebook pages yet for the hubs, so please don't attach the Books Hub website to it! Feel free, of course, to create your own book club page :)
Will go ahead and reply this to the thread, is it appropiate when the book club is re-launched at the end of this month that I can create a forum thread and highlight it for two or three days, just for outreach. What I am trying to do is having a whole bunch of different promotions all on the same day to get a very chuncky audience.
Also I was wondering what is your advice on mass-messaging a lot of users all at once. I have a list of users who have expressed they would be interested for more info or active/used to be active members of Biblicalapedia and have a tool to message all of them the same message. My concern is that it will became really spammy or flooding the wiki activity if its all on Biblicalapedia, and may not be allowed past 2 or three users on Bookshub/CC/Lifestyle (was thinking of splitting it up to three users per the four wikis I would message across, but it may appear as spammy).
And I doubt whether or not you have much of a say in this, but I posted a spotlight request for the Bible Book Club itself and hoping I can get it for the first month.
Superdadsuper, Biblicalapedia Administrator and Bureaucrat
You can absolutely write whatever forums you like-- we don't really highlight threads on this wiki, but of course you can do it on your own wiki. For mass-messaging users, you can create an email list off of wikia and do a monthly newsletter. OR you can do the "mass-messaging" admin tool that allows you to send a message and have a notification pop up on the top. To avoid becoming spammy, limit to maybe 1-2 notifications a month?
I was planning just a one time message of that we are doing it. I doubt whether users will give out emails and I might do a monthly blog. Can I have a link to this tool you are mentioning? I might end up needing to just do it on Biblicalapedia so o can respect the rights of other wikis.
I have got some good news for Aussie Insurgent fans that might pop around here and it is an article saying that Insurgent takes over girlfriend magazine and it has a poll with it and I would like to ask you if you could share it on here! just in case of any Aussie fans of the series could stop by here and they could spot this blog post on here and could comment on it. So thanks for everything!!!