Samm! How are you?? I'm back!! But this time I'm actually back in a different role at Wikia-- I'm a manager so I won't be editing on wikis for most of the time. Witnessme is now the primary books editor -- she actually still writes the Buzz Books in a different format on Fandom- check it out!
I see! Just wanted you to know you've been missed dearly! I feel like I just had a terrible timing when meeting people; the Books Hub was one of the main reasons that I started actually reading books! BTW, even though you don't seem to be on there anymore, I've added all the previous "books of the month" from the Books Hub onto https://www.goodreads.com/group/show/158556 , the group you created on Goodreads!
All is relatively well, I suppose, just the start of semester and the pressure of aiming to graduate soon.
Thanks for letting me know about the relocation of Buzz Books! I don't look through fandom cuz what's up there usually aren't articles I'm interested... I wish all the Buzz Books post where at least highlighted on the rail of book wikis, cuz I'm definitely mostly seeing films and games posts.
Hope you are liking your new role at Wikia! And I hope we could still talk sometimes? :3
Witnessme will be changing a few things on the Books Hub soon as a heads up! Stay tuned...
Oh dear, I don't know if I'm just being to pessimistic... but I'm honestly terrified about this Dx. Some changes are good, and with the virtually non-existing traffic here, perhaps some changes are indeed needed. But idk... I feel like this hub is just like every other "abandoned wiki" out there, point is to treat it as a regular wiki and then it could be revived, just like any other. The book pages are hard works... So yeah... I really would need a heads up if this hub is taking the "demolish-to-build-brand-new" route.
Please let me know whenever you are allowed to let me know about the issue. Thanks a bunch! xDD
I see! Phewww...... that doesn't sound too bad at all! The only thing I can think of is that I do rather like how the top 5 Wikia Books Communities are on display via WAM Score.... Do you know if it's possible to keep that element in the traditional wiki-formatted main page?
Hi Asnow89. Its good to talk to you again (I enjoy your enthiuasm). I needed a few favors from you (to be on on Books Hub Wikia) as well as an update on what's going on with the "Bible Book Club". We have sort "revived" the Bible Book Club on Bible Wiki, except at a much simpler level. We are hosting it only Bible Wiki (we renamed and rebranded) instead of hosting on Books Hub and calling it a Book Club. It is a much more simpler program where we are trying to get people to read their Bibles and contribute relevant content on the specific topics of the books. So we are not really revving the Book club, but rather creating a successor to it.
With that said I was wondering if you could remove the Bible Book Club forum and its mentionings on the Book Club pages? I really appreciate if you do this, but I do not expect (of course I am not opposed) you linking to our new one. Finally I have sumbitted a link to the intro post to the new forum board and program on the "From the community" section and was hoping you could link it.
Superdadsuper, Bible Wiki Bureaucrat & Administrator
For w:c:bloodofeden, is it possible for you to consider adding the same code I provided at Thread:11839#3 but this time at w:c:bloodofeden:MediaWiki:Wikia.css? The reason behind this request this time round is that, the series changed the covers dramatically for the US, and there's actually a matching cover for the first book to the rest of the series, but at the same time, the Australian editions remained using characters on the covers. Right now I think it is a tad bit mismatching, and thought it'd be simply easier if able to showcase both. It's just a suggestion though. Also, because the current logo is just slightly missing 5px; the Shatter Me community decided to go for modification when adding that wiki as an affiliate; is it possible to update the wordmark to w:c:shatterme:File:AWbloodofeden.png? So that if other people ever want to use it, its logo wouldn't be 5px shorter when sitting with other wordmarks.
On top of those two status unclear threads; does The Dinner happen to be one of the next featured books?If NOT, since it already got an award-winning film adaptation (which I just so happened to have watched), and since there's has yet to be a "Book to Film adaptations" exclusively for 2014, is it alright that I repurpose the page? I haven't gotten a reply from the other Staff... I hope I'm not severely annoying the both of you... Like I said... if it's indeed featured soon, I'll leave it alone.
Hey Samm! Soo sorry, I've been sick and have not been on top of responding to all messages. Thanks for the follow up.
Go ahead and repurpose that page, that would be great. I'm actually not sure about the upcoming featured books as of now. I actually have some news! I will be leaving Wikia in 2 weeks to travel for the next year, which means I will no longer be the Staff person around on Books :) Technically I will still have a staff badge but I believe someone new will be popping by.
Also-- the hubs are changing, which means the Books Wiki might be changing soon. If they DO decide to accept new admins, I will definitely be recommending you if I have a say in it! That being said-- feel free to start changing whatever without asking me first.
Re: Zodiac-- that IS a possibility for a book club book since we've talked to the author.
Sorry for the late reply! (was off Wikia and doing some Photoshop stuff for some of the wikis I'm on)
I'm sorry to hear that you've been sick! Hope you get well soon! And OH MY STARS.... You're like the most friendly Staff.... What will the Books Hub do without you! *cries* I'm assuming this also mean someone else would be doing the rest of the Book Cooks blogs? Do you know who I should go to to present ideas?
Asnow89 wrote: Hey Samm! Soo sorry, I've been sick and have not been on top of responding to all messages. Thanks for the follow up.
I'm also not sure if this one Thread:11691#2 got missed; you can ignore the entire first post of the thread, that part is currently being negotiated; but is it possible for you to set up the redirects mentioned on the 2nd reply? Thanks!
Since it's almost February, is it possible to update Y.A. Society Reads Archive#Upcoming Books of the Month with a new set of 3 books the Hub is selecting for next future reads? I try to not bug you about it so often, but I figured when we are about to reach the last book the page displays, it's probably the time to say something. lol
Speaking of Book of the Month, was wondering, is any of those three books: The 5th Wave, Northern Lights, and Warm Bodies going to be featured as the Books of the Month any time in the near future or at all? (As in within 2016)? I'm almost done with converting book pages into series pages when applicable; those three seem to have higher possibility being selected as featured books for they had film adaptations. But yeah, if there isn't any plans for them for the time being, I'd just go work on them so it covers even more stuff about the series as a whole instead of just the first book of the series; and rest assured, edits will still stay for as a regular user I cannot actually delete anything. Let me know so I can decide what actions to take.
Is it alright for me to create a page for Stars Above? Initially I didn't think about it because I thought it was just going to include the novellas that have been published along with 2 new ones; but it turns out to include a total of 9 stories. I think the number is relatively big for collections, and it could be seen as a series of novellas. Trust me, it'd be just one additional page about this collection and not a tons of page for the short stories it covers. The only other collection I'd vouch for the same treatment for now would be The Bane Chronicles, as it includes an even bigger number of stories; but yeah, I won't be making a habit of creating a bunch of collection pages, just the ones that I feel like really do include a lot of content. Hope that's acceptable?
Yep I will try to fix that this week. I am waiting from Marketing to see the upcoming books - I'll let you know! Go ahead and create a Stars Above page. I don't think those three books will be featured so go ahead and work on those pages :)
Hi there Ari! Not sure if you ever received my last reply, but yeah, Stars Above is created and 2 out of the 3 book pages I mentioned are converted into series pages; will continue to work on it when I have time. On the same note, do Ender's Game and The Name of the Wind also have chances to be featured books? Or is it okay to turn them into series pages as well?
P.S.: Really hope you'd be able to take off the "-0" of the file names next time you get to edit Portal:YA Society Reads... It's really a giveaway of the videos being duplicates. (I say this with love)
I hate to ask you this so separately (it just slipped off of my mind, or I really would have tried to list them and ask you all at once), but what about Zodiac? The title of the third book was just announced and I believe the cover is also going to be released soon, on top of that, it turns out there's at least going to be a 4th book, so was wondering if it's okay to also turn the page into a series page.
Edited: Hi there Ari, I'd also like to see if it's okay to proceed the last discussion we had on w:c:recipes:Thread:233378; the founder of the wiki in question did not reply you within two weeks, and I didn't want to be too pushy, but it has been a while. I know I haven't been there at all last month, but it's kind of because I didn't want to complicate stuff as it could play out differently when dealing with a merge. But if possible, I hope it could be taken care of sooner, because the info on the 4th book seems to be the real deal, and I recently found out wiki containing lesser than 50 pages won't show up in the search if you do it within Wikia (it'd show on Google, but idk how people usually look for Wikia wikis), I'd just like to get going to prevent duplicates being created accidentally cuz they couldn't find one already existing.
Hi there Ari, I know this is sort of out of nowhere but because it involves in, let's say, "unintentionally" violating good faith, I'm coming to you for help and hopefully it could be taken care of
So, for this particular wiki you've also been on, the current Bureaucrat has offered me both the Admin and the Moderator (now Discussion Moderator) positions around last April (the links are wall threads where she has specifically mentioned those offer); but I've declined both back then because at the time I was helping other wikis getting back on ground. Not long after, the wiki was proven to really needed help, and the Bureaucrat openly looked for Admins; however, after the test run, the candidates' user groups were changed to Moderator and Rollback, leaving the Bureaucrat herself to be the only remaining person to do admin duties.
This was fine for the rest of last year, as I was still taking care the other wikis, plus the fact that if something really needed to be dealt with; I would message her, and she would take care of it, usually quite quickly.
Unfortunately, I have not heard from her for over a month, and that is quite unusual. That would have been find, because I totally understand that people have real lives; but I'm writing you all this is because the wiki is currently vacant with an active person with rights to delete and protect stuff, and it just so happen, there's currently stuff that urgently needed to be protected. So... If it's possible; what I'm asking here, sadly, is that hopefully, with both of the evidence provided, you can help promote me as a Content Moderator there instead? I have actually wrote to her about this, but like I said, according to Wikia's record, she hasn't been on since last early December. This is just to take care of specific situation; if she comes back and disagree with it, her user group is allowed to demote me, and I will be fine with it. But currently the wiki needs help. I hope it can be seen as "accepting an offer super-delayed, and the offerer isn't there to make the adjustment, and that's why I need your help"... Hope that makes sense.
Hi there, Ari! Hope you have a wonderful vacation? I have relatively spectacular one... until I caught a cold lol. Am currently taking medicine like every good kid should. xP
Anyways; remember at one point there's this statement that's something like "I'll ask you a lot of book wiki related questions"? Well, now comes some of them!!! XD
So yeah, I realized sometimes Wikia Staff will reach out to admins rather than the other way around and volunteer to help do a make-over for their wiki's main page; at first I actually thought the wikis had sent out requests, but looking at some of the posts, it doesn't seem to always be the case. I'm asking NOT because I needed help on certain wikis; I am just curious as to how those targeted wikis were selected, like what makes them the ones to get the "upgrades" so to speak.
I'm also interested to know when the Wikia Staff will decide to reach out to merge wikis with the same topic. This question is mainly asked cuz I know w:c:acotar and w:c:acourtofthornsandroses used to be separated wiki and I saw you kindly asked the admin about the merge. Was wondering if you'd do the same for w:c:thechemicalgarden and w:c:chemicalgarden; the wiki you founded is obviously better organized and has more content; but the latter is actually created first; just thought it's something to think about since personally I never understand why multiple duplicate wikis exist other than they couldn't find the wikis for the stuff and the bad cycle just goes on.
For Chris Van Allsburg, I think it is perfectly understandable as to why it's fine for Jumanji to have its separate wiki; it not only has a film adaptation, it also has a TV series adapted from it, not to mention apparently there's going to be a remake of the film. HOWEVER, I think that it is hard for both w:c:polarexpress and w:c:zathura to grow, seeing that they both only have one film adaptation and their source material was mere 32 pages long; so was wondering if it's possible for them to be turned into portals and merged as a part of the author's wiki like how it is neatly done on w:c:johngreen with his different works?
For F. Scott Fitzgerald, again I think its obviously fine for The Great Gatsby to have its own wiki since it has so many adaptations; what brought the author to my attention is actually cuz I found w:c:benjaminbutton and w:c:curiouscase, both for the film adaptation of the short story Fitzgerald wrote, The Curious Case of Benjamin Button; both has less than 20 pages, while the author's wiki has only 2. I mean, even so, having seen the film adaptation myself, I do think it's a stretch to maintain a wiki solely for the story (adaptation + source material); there's simply not that many stuff to cover in the first place.
Alas, in the end it's not really my place to talk about "hey, why not just merge them", but I figured there's no harm sharing my observations on those wikis' existence and that perhaps they may be stronger if they weren't narrowly focused on those smaller topics and merged into a common bigger one. :3
I had a great break, sorry to hear that you caught a cold!
To answer your questions...
1. It mostly depends on if there is say a book coming out, a movie coming out, or maybe the wiki spikes in popularity, or maybe we think it will be a big hit in a year or so-- that's how we decide which ones to make nicer or which ones not to! We also take community requests.
2. We prefer merging whenever possible to avoid duplicate, competing wikis. I'll merge the chemical garden one!
3. Regarding the ones with TV/movie spinoffs -- I probably merge this depending on the situation. Checking out the wikis you linked, it looks like the admins are gone (which is good in this situation) but also like there are still some people around editing. Also, when wikis have more than a few pages-- I like to make sure the information doesn't get lost in a merge and I transfer it by hand if I tihnk it's really important. If you care about merging those wikis, I'd suggest reaching out to the people still editing on the wiki, post a public blog announcing that you want to do the merge, and merge the information by hand to the authors wiki.
Thanks for answering those questions! I think for those wikis, when I'm less busy with all the wikia projects I currently have (which will no doubt occupy me for at least next half of the year), I'll reach out to those editor and see what's up. Thanks for the advise!
Also, um, not sure if this is some company secret, but, where do you consider a legit source to find news for books having film adaptations? I feel like I've asked you about this but don't remember getting an answer; do you simply just pay attention to ALL NEWS IN GENERAL to see what you come across (like basically, if there is one you'd see it eventually?), or is there a specific website for this type of news?
Another thing is regarding to book publications... After having adding book pages on Goodreads myself, I no longer 100% trust what's there, seeing that supposedly everyone could add stuff there. Do you know if https://www.hachettebookgroup.biz/titles/jonathan-stroud/lockwood-co-the-creeping-shadow/9781484709672/ is a reliable source? I mean, at first I felt that it is cuz I recognize "Hachette" as Hachette Book Group the publisher, but I backtracked a bit and got a little bit confused, for the subject in question isn't published by them, and I can't find the information of this supposed 4th book of Lockwood & Co. on its actual US and UK publisher website. The author however did confirm on his Twitter that the 4th book is coming out in September this year, just that the post implies he hasn't finished writing it, so I'm just not sure if the synopsis and all the detail product information is real. Why would Hachette host stuff published by someone else? Is this common? I don't know much about this industry. Sorry if this question seems moronic. lol